Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:11:00 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:11:00 +0800

http://singaporemind.blogspot.com/2008/03/illegal-assembly-laws-in-singapore.html

I guess you know by now that it is illegal to gather in groups of more than 4 people in Singapore without a permit. I'm sure those teenagers screaming their heads off outside the airport and holding big signs to greet their favourite stars have permits. Policemen turn up for crowd control not to arrest them. If the same people turn up somewhere in Singapore and holding signs to say "Free Burma" or "Save the trees" , they will be quickly arrested. Why is it okay to turn up and gather to greet your fav pop star and not okay to turn up to make a statement that is accepted in every democratic country. The answer is simple - one is a dangerous activity and the other is not. It is perfectly harmless for you to adore your fav stars and sports personality because it is done for fun.....expressing your opinion strongly and openly is no laughing matter in Singapore, it is highly dangerous. Why is it dangerous?
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To understand why it is considered dangerous, we have to understand our political system. Our system is based on a hierarchical rule when the opinion of people higher up the hierarchy carries more weight than the person below. So the opinions of ordinary carries almost no weight and that of the opposition carries negative weight. Our role as citizens is to obey and agree. ...a good citizen is an obedient citizen. In Singapore Inc. our leaders are like bosses in a corporation, PM Lee is the CEO, the ministers are the directors and the ordinary ctizens are the workers. The opposition are disgruntled workers who instigate others so they have to be stopped at all cost. Gathering to express your opinion openly is a form of insubordination - your opinion doesn't matter anyway so why bother to turn up. This explains why nobody turns up when various protests are organised even when they are sympathetic to the cause.

Almost everyone is feeling the pinch from inflation and if you visit a coffeeshop, you can hear many people whining about the high cost of living. However, when they organised that "Tak Buleh Tahan" protest only 30 people out of 4 million turn up. Ordinary Singaporeans know their position in this society, they know there is no point speaking up because their voices meaning nothing - if inflation eroded their income, it is better to spend their time to hunt for better bargains that to speak up against it.

An interesting read...

Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by I-like-flings(m) @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:00:10 +0800

I-like-flings(m) — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:00:10 +0800

Rockhampton?? the ghost town that SAF usually have their R&R??? ok lah... ban also no one will care... such a ghost town there... got kids there one meh? all old ppl nia... i never even saw a single XMM there last time..

Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:57:02 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:57:02 +0800

Apparently lionnoisy can't tell the difference between a single mega mall applying such a policy in their building and an ENTIRE nation thousands of times bigger applying such a policy to millions of people.

Trying to make a mountain of a molehill again?

Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by rain-coat @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:13:50 +0800

rain-coat — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:13:50 +0800

have you been caught for illegal assembly before? if im not wrong sg is more than 5 but everytime i hang out with friends also more than 5 mata see already also nv even stop to question. do you think that sg really enforces this law? so how can you say sg is a police state?

Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by Hello Kitty @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:46:25 +0800

Hello Kitty — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:46:25 +0800

they r public nuisance.

Oz mega mall bans entry to teen groups of more than 4 replied by lionnoisy @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:16:35 +0800

lionnoisy — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:16:35 +0800

If SG shopping center

banned groups of more than four teenagers or children aged under 15 from congregating at the centre

,What do u think the western media will report?

Max. 4 persons--The no. is near illegal assembly in SG!!

I think it will travel big and fast,another evidence of SG police state.

Now,this mega Oz shopping center,

''largest shopping centre in the Central Queensland region

''has already banned group of more than 4 teenagers .

Why nobody bother to report?

Is it common for OZ malls to ban group of teenagers?

Hey,this shopping center come with 2100 parking lots.

I assume it is managed by very professional team.

It was very tough for them to make this decision.

Human rights group there of course made noise,calling the ban

"discriminatory, punitive, short-sighted and unenforceable".

Why does the mega mall refuse business?

Public order and safety----

North Rockhampton police officer-in-charge, Senior Sergeant Murray Shields, said the violence had started several weeks ago and ranged from "schoolyard-type scuffles" to a stabbing.

He said there had been "a few arrests" for offences including disobeying a direction to move on and public nuisance.

Most "troublemakers" had been aged between 13 and 16 years.

Police had been called several times to disperse the crowds.

Stockland Rockhampton has banned groups of more than four teenagers or children aged under 15 from congregating at the centre on Thursday nights.

With more than 115 specialty stores and services, you’ll find a great range of variety provided for your shopping needs.

Parking is convenient and easy with over 2,100 car parks available, including 1,100 undercover parks.

At Stockland Rockhampton, I like it here.

But without the troubles.

http://www.stockland.com.au/Retail/QLD/Regional/StocklandRockhampton/Information/

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/07/13/1215887417283.html?s_rid=smh:top5

Shopping centre refuses entry to teen groups

Kate Dennehy | July 13, 2008