http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 en-US 60 <p>Seems like his topics ultimately always end up showing what's wrong with Singapore instead of Australia...</p> <p>I wonder if he realizes the irony of it.</p> Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:01:11 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8252081 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p>this should shut that noisy fella for a little while....</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:04:02 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251323 redDUST http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style= "font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;"><strong>Matchmaking or human trafficking?</strong></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;">I have written two previous articles about the quickie-bride business in <a href="http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/arch_2003/yax-316.htm" rel="nofollow"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Vietnamese brides</span></a> and <a href= "http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/yax-411.htm" rel= "nofollow"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Vietnam's house of virgins</span></a>. In both, I expressed my strong opinion about how unsavoury this kind of quickie match-making is.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;">Now, a reader of Yawning Bread -- let's call him Terence -- has provided me with information about an even seamier underside of this business, which may qualify as human trafficking. Terence seems convinced that Singapore is looking the other way while other countries have been doing something about it.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Naturally, it is very difficult to get hard proof about the most disturbing aspects of his story, for the more sensitive the matter, the more closely the businessmen involved will guard those secrets. This is something that only determined investigators, able to set up undercover operations, can penetrate.</span></p> <p>But Terence's inside information has an internally consistent logic and is very plausible as a business method. Perhaps not all matchmaking agencies operate like this, but among the lot, some will be using the business model described below, not least because Singapore and some other countries aren't doing anything to stop it.</p> <p>* * * * *</p> <p>To recapitulate a little, the matchmaking agencies arrange packaged tours to Vietnam (or Cambodia, Kalimantan, or wherever next), during which eager bachelors (almost always Chinese. often in their late 30s or 40s) choose a potential bride from a line-up. Then a few social dates are set up and a decision to get married is made in another day or two.</p> <p>Within the same week-long packaged trip, a wedding is organised and by the week's end, they're husband and wife. If you believe this is all wonderfully romantic, if you believe these are affairs of the heart, God bless you.</p> <p>On the face of it, such businesses make money from the package tours and the introduction fees. But the arrangements made between the matchmaking agency and the girls (or their families) comes in various shades, and aren't free from financial entanglements either. Some of the darker shades may involve daughters sold to these agencies by families in financial distress. See also the article,&nbsp; <a href= "http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/yax-434.htm" rel= "nofollow"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Parents in denial, children at risk</span></a> where I wrote,</p> <blockquote> <p>In Cambodia, a commonly reported scenario is one where the mother or older relative takes a young girl to a brothel, and using her as collateral, obtains a loan. The girl then has to work off the bond.&nbsp;</p> </blockquote> <p>Do note however, that in the above paragraph, I was referring to child prostitution. In this article I do not imply that the "girls" or "women" from Vietnam or wherever are underage.</p> <p>* * * * *</p> <p>Below is what my reader, Terence, told me. He has a trading company, for which he has to travel frequently to Vietnam. He has been watching this match-making business for some time, and in fact has made enquiries out of curiosity.</p> <p>According to his email, the match-making agencies who advertise in Singapore are more than just trans-national between Vietnam and Singapore. They have either branches or affiliates in Taiwan, Malaysia and Indonesia as well, a point that will become pertinent further down.</p> <p>Not only do they have girls on parade in Saigon, they generally have some girls available on the spot in Singapore too. If you go to their local offices, he told me, you will be shown 6 or 7 girls behind a big glass window.</p> <p>The matchmakers are likely to tell you that the girls have been "certified by local doctors to be HIV-free, VD-free and are virgins," according to Terence.</p> <p>He did a round of these places pretending to be an interested customer and when he said he might be in financial difficulty, he was "even offered an installment scheme by 3 agencies." He was quite convinced the financing would come from "their friends in the money-lending business." That is, loan sharks.</p> <p>Terence has also spoken to matchmakers in Vietnam itself -- these are the native Vietnamese matchmakers, to be distinguished from the Singaporean/Taiwanese matchmakers. Two part-time matchmakers there are his friends. From them, he learnt of a very different side to this whole business.</p> <p>An important distinction is made by the Vietnamese matchmakers between the 'good' girls and the, well I suppose we have to call them the 'not so good' ones.</p> <p>"Good parents," Terence was told, "will never allow their good daughters to travel overseas for matchmaking."</p> <p>In any case, "the usual time period for good, pretty girls to be chosen in HCM city is approximately 1 to 2 weeks. They will not take the risk of going overseas."</p> <p>So who are those who are taken out of Vietnam by the matchmakers? Terence tells me, these ones have been sold by their families. Or perhaps they bonded themselves for a large loan.</p> <p>They are then rotated around Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia on social visit passes. If our officials want to do something about this, Terence said, they can easily "check their passports for verification."</p> <p>If the girls are successfully matched, they have to pay "a tidy sum... in return for the lodging and marketing cost."</p> <p>But if 3 months (usually) have passed without success, they "will be forced to take up part-time prostitution to repay the... costs incurred by the matchmakers."</p> <p>Thus Terence concluded: "Behind the scenes, these matchmakers are actually big-time human traffickers as, in actual fact, they're selling these girls to anyone, not just Singaporeans .....under the cover of matchmaking."</p> <p>"Many of these girls end up in the Middle Eastern countries as prostitutes."</p> <p>Terence learnt this from the Vietnamese matchmakers on his many trips to Saigon.</p> <p>Until a few years ago, girls were also on display in Taiwan and Korea, but these countries, said Terence, have stopped this. Singapore has not.</p> <p>In fact, the agencies here are beginning to talk of girls from Cambodia. The tentacles of this business are reaching more countries.</p> <p>* * * * *&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Being able to speak Chinese is presented as an asset in a potential bride; virtually no Singaporeans are able to speak Vietnamese. But here, Terence had something interesting to report, too.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;">"According to the Vietnamese matchmakers," he said, "those girls who are able to speak Mandarin are mostly divorcees from Taiwan or karaoke and massage palour girls who have worked in HCM city."</span></p> <p>As massage parlour girls, they might have had motivation and opportunity to pick up some Mandarin to please travelling businessmen from the region.</p> <p>Yet, these matchmaking agencies invariably advertise that all their girls on offer are virgins. If you believe that divorcees, karaoke hostesses and masseuses are virgins, God bless you again.</p> <p>The real virgins are likely to be daughters sold by families in financial distress, which in turn creates another set of problems. After a successful match, they get very needy about money from their husbands, and not surprisingly, many marriages end in divorce (or the women simply run away). But by then, they may have picked up some Mandarin, which means they can re-join the line-up at the matchmaker's, this time with an additional language asset. Given their circumstances, they have to try for another husband, otherwise how will they continue to send money to the family? The cycle is difficult to break out of.</p> <p>* * * * *</p> <p>Terence wrote to me because, watching the business, he feels "that it is really shameful that the government is actually closing more than an eye to it."</p> <p>We let this business develop under our noses. Our Sunday Times write glowing feature articles about Vietnamese and other quickie brides.</p> <p>If any reader knows what investigation and enforcement agencies can intervene, whether domestic or international, please pass them a copy of this story. Do something, or else we'll all be collectively culpable. <img src= "http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/images/bar_red.gif" height="12" alt="" width="4" /></p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:10:18 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251271 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Movie to be made on Human Traffacking in Singapore</strong></span></p> <p>Filipina actress Iza Calzado's upcoming film seeks to raise awareness about a serious crime that destroys the lives of many people, especially women: human trafficking.</p> <p>In the film "<span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Mona Singapore Escort</strong></span>", Calzado plays the title character, "Mona", a resident in a far-flung province in the Philippines.</p> <p>Mona ends up in a brothel in Singapore after falling victim to a sweet-talking illegal recruiter.</p> <p>A victim of human trafficking, Mona makes the best out of her situation in order to send money back home to her family.</p> <p>Calzado said she had no qualms about accepting her first ever mature and sexy role because she believes in the project and in the director.</p> <p>She also thought that the role of Mona would be good for her as an actress.</p> <p>"My director Jowee Morel is so wonderful, even if he’s only new in the business. I don’t mind playing sexy roles as long as they can enhance my acting career.</p> <p>“This is also an advocacy to stop illegal recruitment so that our Filipinas don’t suffer their fate abroad. I hope the government takes care of them," the actress told abs-cbnNEWS.com</p> <p><strong>Christmas screening</strong></p> <p>According to Pete Daza, one of the film's producers, the film is an eye-opener as well as a warning to other Filipinos to be very careful, and protect themselves from human traffickers.</p> <p>Daza told abs-cbnNEWS.com that a few theaters in Los Angeles, California have expressed interest in showing "Mona Singapore Escort" knowing that there are a lot of Filipinos there.</p> <p>Daza also mentioned that they are working on arrangements to show the film in other locations including London and Dubai.</p> <p>Co-producer Malcolm Gochioco said he is currently negotiating with theater owners in the Los Angeles area, for a possible release date for the film before Christmas.</p> <p>"This is one way of greeting our kababayans in America, 'Merry Christmas'. I hope this will enlighten a lot of our compatriots about illegal recruitment of our Filipinas who are driven to prostitution because of ignorance,” Gochioco.</p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">True story</span></strong></p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">According to director Jowee Morel, “Mona Singapore Escort” exposes the reality of white slavery in Singapore, which counts Filipinas among its victims.</span></p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Despite Singapore's reputation as a strict, law-abiding society and its hardline stance on crime (the Singapore government has put to death even foreigners found guilty in illegal drugs cases), Morel said human trafficking and sexual slavery are disturbing realities in Singapore.</span></p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">“This is a true story,” said Morel, “I hope the governments of the Philippines and Singapore would do something about human trafficking of our women in other countries. I know they are but there should be a massive drive about this."<br /></span></p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:08:30 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251269 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p style="margin: 6pt 0in 0pt 2.15pt; text-align: center;"> <strong><span style= "font-size: 18pt; color: #993300; font-family: Arial;"><span style= "color: #ff0000;">Human Trafficking &amp; Modern-day Slavery</span></span></strong></p> <p style=""><span style= "color: #993300; font-family: Arial;"><span style= "color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style= "text-decoration: underline;">Republic of Singapore</span></strong></span><span style= "">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></p> <p class="" style="margin-top: 12pt; text-align: justify;"> <span style="color: #993300; font-family: Arial;"><span>The Republic of Singapore consists of the island of Singapore and about 60 small adjacent islands at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula, SE Asia [<a href= "http://www.infoplease.com/images/msingap.gif" rel= "nofollow"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style= "color: #0000ff;">map</span></span></a></span><span style= "font-size: 10pt; color: #993300; font-family: Verdana;">].<span style="">&nbsp;</span> Singapore city, the capital, largest city, and chief port, is administratively coextensive with the republic and the distinction between the two has virtually disappeared.<span style= "">&nbsp;</span> Singapore has a highly developed and successful free market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the Big 4 West European countries. The economy depends heavily on exports, particularly in electronics and manufacturing.</span></span></p> <p class="" style="margin-top: 12pt; text-align: justify;"> <span style= "font-size: 10pt; color: #993300; font-family: Verdana;">Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of labor and commercial sexual exploitation. Some women from India, Thailand, the Philippines, and the People’s Republic of China who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or work are subsequently deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. A significant number of foreign domestic workers in Singapore faces the unlawful confiscation of their travel documents, restrictions on their movement, confinement, and/or physical or sexual abuse. Some Singaporean men travel to countries in the region for child sex tourism</span><span style= "font-size: 8pt; color: #993300; font-family: Verdana;">. - <em>U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2008</em></span></p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:07:16 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251268 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Woman, teenage lover to stand trial for DJ's murder</span></strong></p> <p>By Selina Lum &lt;!-- more than 7 paragraphs --&gt;&lt;!-- show image if available --&gt;</p> <div class=""><img src="/STI/STIMEDIA/common/c.gif" height="8" alt= "" width="1" /></div> <p>&lt;!-- story content : start --&gt;THE wife of a slain disc jockey and her alleged teenage accomplice are expected to go on trial next month for murder.</p> <p>Aniza Essa, 25, and Muhammad Nasir Abdul Aziz, 17, on Thursday were committed to stand trial in the High Court.</p> <p>Trial dates have been set for April 7 to 18.</p> <p>The pair are accused of murdering Mr Manap Sarlip, 29, outside the couple's flat at Block 74 Whampoa Drive on July 1 last year.</p> <p>They were arrested separately a day after the killing.</p> <p>Aniza and Muhammad Nasir had apparently met while they were working at a Beach Road pub. The teenager is said to be Aniza's lover.</p> <p>&lt;!-- show media links starting at 7th para --&gt;While the teen is charged with the murder, Aniza is charged with abetting his commission of the offence.</p> <p>If convicted, Aniza faces the mandatory death penalty for murder but the teen will escape the gallows because of his age.</p> <p>Under the Criminal Procedure Code, no one under the age of 18 at the time of the offence can be hanged.</p> <p>Instead, the offender be detained 'at the President's pleasure', which means he will be held for as long as the President directs.</p> <p>The prosecution has 57 witnesses lined up to prove its case against the couple.</p> <p>Muhammad Nasir is defended by Mr Subhas Anandan, while Aniza's lawyer is Mr Noor Marican.</p> <p>The case has drawn comparisons to the sensational Annie Leong murder in 2001.</p> <p>A 15-year-old boy was convicted of killing Madam Leong on the instructions of her estranged husband Anthony Ler.</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:05:04 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251265 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <h2 class=""><span><span style= "color: #ff0000;">09/07/2008</span></span></h2> <p><a rel="nofollow"></a></p> <h3><span><span style="color: #ff0000;">Why So Many Murders in Singapore Lately? Another At AMK!</span></span></h3> <div class=""> <div class=""> <div class=""> <p>So many murders lately - the cleaner stabbed to death at Causeway Point, the transvestite murdered in his home at Ang Mo Kio, and now the latest in this recent spate of violent crime - an 18-year-old Indian girl, also at AMK. Is Singapore as safe as it used to be? Have we had a couple of months of 'full moons' perhaps?<br /> <br /> In the latest incident, a 22-year-old male suspect has been arrested in connection with the homicide. The young girl's body was found covered in blood not far from her home in Ang Mo Kio Avenue 5, early on Tuesday morning (8th July, 2008).<br /> <br /> Is it still safe to go out at night in Singapore? Is this trend worrying?</p> <p><a href= "http://singabloodypore.rsfblog.org/tag/singapore+amk+murder+trend+violence+danger" rel= "nofollow">http://singabloodypore.rsfblog.org/tag/singapore+amk+murder+trend+violence+danger</a></p> </div> </div> </div> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:02:29 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251262 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p><em><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">SINGAPORE : A woman's severed head and limbs were found next to Orchard MRT Station on Friday.</span></strong></em></p> <p>Police are investigating if a woman's torso found in a black canvas bag along a path near MacRitchie Reservoir is linked to the body parts found earlier at Orchard Road.</p> <p>The police had responded to a call about an unattended bag at MacRitichie Reservoir earlier in the evening.</p> <p>The body parts were stashed in a blue sports bag on the grounds near Orchard MRT Station.</p> <p>The woman's head was wrapped in a red plastic bag, the arms and legs in two black trash bags.</p> <p>A cleaner found the unattended sports bag behind the MRT station, between the mosaic wall and the park.</p> <p>ASP Siow Cheng Cheng, Police Spokesman, said: "Police immediately cordoned off the surrounding area and conducted a search. We are presently working towards establishing the identity of the victim. The search for further remains and evidence is on-going."</p> <p>The gruesome find drew a large crowd of on-lookers.</p> <p><strong>This is the second body parts case in less than three months</strong> - a grim reminder of the June 16 case where the body parts of Chinese national Liu Hong Mei were found in the Kallang River</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:00:50 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251260 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p>How lionnoisy?</p> <p>How to protect us from knife attacks? At least in NS we learn how to take cover from bullets! But nobody teach us how to avoid knife and parang attacks!</p> <p>At least I go Oz I got NS training and know how to react to gun attack, but knife attack how?</p> <p>And worse, all this is happening right here in Singapore!</p> <p>How lionnoisy, can you hold a knife attack workshop for us Singaporeans?</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:59:08 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251257 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p><strong>Cleaner killed in Singapore</strong></p> <p>SINGAPORE: A Malaysian cleaner was found stabbed to death at a workers' dormitory in Singapore, news reports said yesterday.</p> <p>The body of Sangga anak Runggah, 23, was discovered inside a steel storage room that doubled up as a rest area, <em>The Straits Times</em> said.</p> <p>He had stab wounds on the chest and arms and was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics on Friday.</p> <p>The five-storey dormitory is home to primarily Indian and Bangladeshi labourers.</p> <p>G.R. Gabriel, a security guard at a similar dormitory next door, said he was shocked when he heard about the stabbing as Sangga seemed like a “quiet and hardworking” man. – dpa</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:57:24 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251253 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p>More violent crimes in Singapore:</p> <p><strong>Poly student pleads guilty to stabbing spree<br /> <span style="font-size: xx-small;">Navin Jatin Batla stabbed two maids after being rejected by his girlfriend's father - ST</span><br /> <br /></strong> Upset that his girlfriend's father objected to their relationship, Navin Jatin Batla, 23, an Indian national, bought two knives and cotton gloves and then went on a stabbing rampage at her Dalvey Estate house...<br /> <br /> He pleaded guilty on Monday in a High Court to trying to kill shipping consultant Manik Ram Shahani, 73, and stabbing two maids aged 37 and 38.<br /> <br /> He also admitted to restraining girlfriend Mumta Manik Shahani, 38, with a knife.<br /> <br /> Batla, who was studying marine technology at the Singapore Polytechnic, will be sentenced on Wednesday.</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:56:50 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251250 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <h1 class="">Woman Stabbed to Death at Causeway Point Food Court</h1> <p class="">A 45-year-old woman was stabbed to death at a shopping centre in Woodlands on Sunday morning.<br /> <br /> Police were called in to the Causeway Point food court at 10.35 am, where the victim was found with multiple stab wounds. She was pronounced dead about five minutes later.<br /> <br /> Police have classified the case murder, and are looking for a 60-year-old man to assist in investigations. The man was last seen wearing a blue polo T-shirt, with shorts and black shoes.</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:55:32 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251248 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <p><strong>Parangs welcome Singaporeans in Singapore:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;<img src= "http://carefreeworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pb240080.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div><strong>SHE</strong> was found lying by the road side in the early hours of Sunday morning, bleeding profusely from multiple slash wounds on her arm and leg.<br /> <br /> Madam Chua Ai Hua, 38, was rushed to the hospital by passerbys, but she died 11 hours later from her injuries.<br /> <br /> The Sungai Petani resident is believed to have been attacked by a friend over a drug deal gone wrong, reported The Star.<br /> <br /> Madam Chua's mother told Guang Ming Daily that at 4.30am that morning, the attacker, a man in his 30s, had apparently gone to her house to find her daughter, carrying a parang and shouting loudly.<br /> <br /> But the unemployed Madam Chua, a divorcee, was not at home.<br /> <br /> When her son, 16, told the man that he did not know his mother's whereabouts, the attacker punched the boy in the face and stormed off.<br /> <br /> Madam Chua's family confirmed that she had owed the suspect several hundred ringgit - but they did not think that he would kill.<br /> <br /> Said her son: 'If I had known, I would have called someone to save her - but now it's too late.'<br /> <br /> When the police went to the suspect's house, it was abandoned. After breaking down the door, they found blood stains in the living room. They also found a parang, which they believe to be the murder weapon.<br /> <br /> The suspect reportedly has a long criminal record, including charges for causing hurt, and drug trafficking and consumption.<br /> <br /> Kuala Muda OCPD Hashin Ali told The Star that police are looking for a man in his 30s to help with investigations.<br /> <br /> He said that the police have classified the case as murder.</div> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:54:17 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8251244 SingaporeTyrannosaur http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by parn:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> lionnoisy posted his thread in&nbsp; <a href="/forums/2237" rel= "nofollow">World and Asia Pacific News Discussions</a> .</p> <p>What's there to explain in relation to Singapore politics?</p> <p>Unless.....you don't know Australia is also part of Asia Pacific?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Uhh.... because when I made that post, this thread was in <em>Speaker's Corner</em>?</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:20:49 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250956 fudgester http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>you are absolutely right, besides PRC who are everywhere in singapore; you get filipino communities on the north, burmese in the west, indo in the north/west, thais in the central south, including indian who are also in the south as well as north east. if you observe, you will start to see africaans&nbsp;(i think nigerians or sudanese)&nbsp;in the north as well (woodlands area) and&nbsp;eastern europeans in north east/central.</p> <p>my mr bean soya milk&nbsp;is now served by indo, common corridor swept by china-man, when i call ntuc car coop to make bookings, the filipinos handle my bookings, my favourite japanese stall in the foodcourt is now served by a chinese, my spam calls are either from filipinos or indos, even the affable grandma who cleans the table in the foodcourt i frequent is also replaced by china-woman.</p> <p>i start to wonder if singaporeans have it so good that they do not want to work anymore here.</p> <p>so, you are absolutely right, singapore is not only getting china immigrants.&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I laugh when I read this... not as sacarsm, but the irony of it.... Spot the S'poreans in Singapore.....Lost in the pools of "Foreign Talents"</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:42:24 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250863 Tammiemeow http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sgdiehard:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> At least&nbsp;the PRC in Singapore are learning Singlish,</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>duh, it is a matter of survival, or you reckon the malay and tamil here should pick up putong-hua to communicate?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:36:13 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250842 redDUST http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>you imagine only singapore's getting PRC immigrants ? .... <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>you are absolutely right, besides PRC who are everywhere in singapore; you get filipino communities on the north, burmese in the west, indo in the north/west, thais in the central south, including indian who are also in the south as well as north east. if you observe, you will start to see africaans&nbsp;(i think nigerians or sudanese)&nbsp;in the north as well (woodlands area) and&nbsp;eastern europeans in north east/central.</p> <p>my mr bean soya milk&nbsp;is now served by indo, common corridor swept by china-man, when i call ntuc car coop to make bookings, the filipinos handle my bookings, my favourite japanese stall in the foodcourt is now served by a chinese, my spam calls are either from filipinos or indos, even the affable grandma who cleans the table in the foodcourt i frequent is also replaced by china-woman.</p> <p>i start to wonder if singaporeans have it so good that they do not want to work anymore here.</p> <p>so, you are absolutely right, singapore is not only getting china immigrants.&nbsp;</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:32:15 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250829 redDUST http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by fudgester:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>How about you first try to explain how this article is related to Singapore politics?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> lionnoisy posted his thread in&nbsp; <a href= "http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2237" rel="nofollow">World and Asia Pacific News Discussions</a> .</p> <p>What's there to explain in relation to Singapore politics?</p> <p>Unless.....you don't know Australia is also part of Asia Pacific?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:08:46 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250793 parn http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by lionnoisy:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>it seem my posting take effect.i can report to my cat master to claim</p> <p>bonus.BTW,i am preparing a workshop <span style= "color: #ff0000;">how to protect u from guns shots.</span></p> <p>Any experts here to help out?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>How about you first try to explain how this article is related to Singapore politics?</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:49:39 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250597 fudgester http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Not "imagine" but a fact, at least in terms of the multitude of them.</p> <p>When I applied for a work permit to work in Thailand, it was really difficult and I got it only because the company (Thai public listed company,) showed proof that it was next to impossible to find Thais that could do my job.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>congra .It show u are very valuable.</p> <p>But it also show Thai not so open lah.</p> <p>Look at their GDP 30 years ago and now.</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:27:30 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250525 lionnoisy http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>But what's the point? If not Australia, people can go to other destination as long as they get away from the despots and their money grabbing policies.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>it seem my posting take effect.i can report to my cat master to claim</p> <p>bonus.BTW,i am preparing a workshop <span style= "color: #ff0000;">how to protect u from guns shots.</span></p> <p>Any experts here to help out?</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:54:38 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250457 lionnoisy http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>you imagine only singapore's getting PRC immigrants ? .... <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /><img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" />,&nbsp;sharp observation,&nbsp;good question for some Singaporean.&nbsp;At least&nbsp;the PRC in Singapore are learning Singlish, I was surprised how a shopping mall in Canada can be so much of a HK, how people living there can speak their own dialect for years without having to assimilate. I went past one&nbsp;US campus and boy, half the students I met were from PRC....&nbsp;</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:53:42 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250454 sgdiehard http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>you imagine only singapore's getting PRC immigrants ? .... <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>u also get family of former Napal Royal family settled here.</p> <p>Welcome Your Royal Highness!!</p> <p>Welcome to this prison island state(from the words of Gopalan Nair--Trade mark registered)if u use without his name,he will shot u,if u are in US!!</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:52:24 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250449 lionnoisy http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>But what's the point? If not Australia, people can go to other destination as long as they get away from the despots and their money grabbing policies.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>from frying pan to hell?</p> <p>How come the Bali 9 or 7 can smuggled drugs from Brisbane airport</p> <p>to Bali without problems for unknown no. of times?</p> <p>Corruptions or lapse?</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:50:06 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250443 lionnoisy http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>you imagine only singapore's getting PRC immigrants ? .... <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Not "imagine" but a fact, at least in terms of the multitude of them.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>When I applied for a work permit to work in Thailand, it was really difficult and I got it only because the company (Thai public listed company,) showed proof that it was next to impossible to find Thais that could do my job.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:43:53 +0800 sgforums.com:2237:324542:8250423 AndrewPKYap http://sgforums.com/forums/2237/topics/324542