UK High Court also accepts kangaroo court is not a good word!!

recent and relevant cases:

"In Clark v Chief Constable of Essex Police 2006 EWHC 2290 (QB), published at bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2006/2290.html, # the British High Court of Justice appeared to accept the description of kangaroo court in the context of a disciplinary proceeding "because those attending jumped from the accusation to the condemnation without pausing to find out what the accused person had to say about it.""---end of quote 

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/K/KangarooCourt.aspx

# http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2006/2290.html

England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) Decisions

para 138

1. The minute on its face can only be properly described as a minute of a discipline matter. The substance of the minute cannot be described as a management decision. It may very well be that, for reasons which were subsequently given by CI King to the Claimant on 11^th May, the same decision could have been reached for purely management reasons. But that is not the point. Looked at on its face, the minute records a meeting which would merit the description attributed to it by the Claimant namely a kangaroo court. It was a kangaroo court, because those attending jumped from the accusation to the condemnation without pausing to find out what the accused person had to say about it.

 

nnn

...December 3, 2008 The Singapore Straits Times Report "... states that the Singapore attorney general is ... Attorney General of Singapore is to do ... is here that Singapore would find themselves ... my banishment from Singapore Changi Airport. You ...

can good fren of Nair tell him dunt depend too much on the vague freedom and

democracy of USA!!

There are too many things that AGC can do ,shall do and most probably

will do,thanks to the road paved by Nair himself after landing

in USA!!I already told u in this thread and other threads that Nair will

point his middle figure to SG once he lands in USA.

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I dunt want AGC waste their time to deal with this guy.

But he just challenges SG laws too much.He gave ammo to AGC to fire

to him.What to do?I think he and his many learned frens can read much

better than me on laws,SG and USA~!~!

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/

MUTUAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS ACT

(CHAPTER 190A)

Requests for attendance of person in Singapore
9. —(1)   Where the Attorney-General is satisfied that —(a) there are reasonable grounds to believe that a person in a foreign country is capable of giving evidence or assistance relevant to a criminal matter involving a Singapore offence; and......................(a) the removal of the person to Singapore;(b) the return of the person to the foreign country; and(c) other relevant matters.

further reading--i cant locate this order:

[PDF]

PRE-PUBLICATION NOTICE 2003 REVISED EDITION (JANUARY) OF ...

http://www.agc.gov.sg/publications/docs/SL_Jan_2003.pdf

(20) Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters Act $5.04
(Chapter 190A)
(a) Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (International)
Criminal Tribunals) Regulations (Rg 1) (S 368/2001)
(b) Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (United States
of America) Order (O 1) (S69/2001

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The learned Judges of USA also understand what is Kangaroo court or Judge!!

 

Nair shall weigh carefully the risks and benefits to scandalise,annoy and insult 

SG gavaman and people further!

Nair said non--graduate cant migrate.

Nair shall know many non--graduate can migrate.

http://www.xiaolidy.com/

Free Korean,western,Japan,Mandarin & Comics movie w subtitle

 

http://www.xiaolidy.com/

Free Korean,western,Japan,Mandarin & Comics movie w subtitle

 

Why California,the 8 th biggest GDP by volume in the world,

was  declared in  a fiscal emergency?

I really cant understand.USA as a nation have to bear the military expenses.

I dunt think Calif have to.This is one of the richest state,if not the richest.

Pl share with us here.

http://gov.ca.gov/

Fiscal Emergency Proclamation December 1, 2008

Governor Calls New Legislature Into a Prop 58 Special Session

12/1 - Governor Schwarzenegger today declared a fiscal emergency for the state of California, allowing him to call a Proposition 58 legislative special session to address this emergency. The Governor also called a second legislative special session to address the state’s economy.
Read More About Prop 58 special session  »

Main article: Economy of California

The Hollywood Sign overlooking Los Angeles is a symbol of the motion-picture industry.

As of 2007, the gross state product (GSP) is about $1.812 trillion, the largest in the United States. California is responsible for 13 percent of the United States gross domestic product (GDP). As of 2006, California's GDP is larger than all but eight countries in the world (all but eleven countries by Purchasing Power Parity). California is facing a $16 billion budget deficit for the 2008-09 budget year.^[31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California

 

nnnnn

Good news Oz is not yet in recession.

But GDP growth is 1.9% for a year ending Sept quarter!!

GDP increased by 0.1 per cent in the September quarter to be 1.9 per cent higher through the year. 

134 National Accounts - September Quarter 2008
03/12/2008

see the past few yrs data here.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/Economics/GDP-Growth.aspx?Symbol=AUD

hhh

Strait Times seems learn a lesson from Kangaroo Trio case.

The trio blamed STimes publise the kangaroo image!!

In today report about Nair retracting apolgies,STimes dared not

quote what Nair posted in his blog:

Sunday, November 30, 2008

Justice Judith Prakash. Another Kangaroo Judge.

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Nair retracts apology
Straits Times - 03 dec 2008
By Zakir Hussain FORMER Singaporean lawyer Gopalan Nair, now back home in the United States, has retracted apologies and statements he made in court here ...

'The only reason for my apology was a desire to get out of prison as soon as possible,' said Mr Gopalan Nair. -- ST PHOTO: SHAHRIYA YAHAYA

Will u be seeing him in SG soon?

The ball is now in AGC's court!!

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They are reading his blogs!!

On the two postings he agreed to remove, and which he did delete from his blog, he 'will be re-posting those two blog posts and stand by every word that I had written in them'.

He has yet to re-post them, a check last night showed.

Asked for comments on these developments, a spokesman for the Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC) said it is 'currently looking into the matter'.

Mr Nair came to Singapore in May to attend a hearing to assess damages in a defamation suit that Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew won against the Singapore Democratic Party, its chief Chee Soon Juan and his sister Chee Siok Chin.

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Nair retracts apology : Singabloodypore

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nbn

Tan hinted the topics in coming Sat!!

i have said about Chee Soon Juan--you are what you post.

Shall You need to endorse every single word or letter or figure

appearing in your posts,even u paste others' writing?

I think u need to .Readers would think that u agree the content of what

u copy and paste or people send to you then u paste on your posts.

This apply to a famous and learned person like Mr Tan.

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Tan posted a old report sent by a guy .The report quoted David

Marshal earned $8000 pm when he was CM.

We put aside how much David Marshal really earned when

he was Chief Minister from  1955 to 1956.Some said it may

be a typo.

Does Tan know what was the purchase power of $8000 pm

in 1955 and 1956?

I remember the earlies HDB 3 room flat costed few thousand .

In the comments of Tan's post,one said:

http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2008/12/david-marshall-in-1994.html

A Tan said...

He earned $8,000 a month in the mid 1950s.

A bungalow hse in Frankel Estate (Siglap area) was abt S$30,000 (high side).

So he could buy 3.2 hses there on a yearly salary.

Say a minister today gets S$2 mill. He can buy maybe one hse in same area in one yr.

3:44 PM

I think a unskilled worker then earned below $50pm.

Let say Marshal one year salary can earn 2 houses only.

This was a big sum in 1956.

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Now we turn to Tan who may be too busy to think before he posted this.

Or he may be hinting his topics in the coming Saturday.

He likes mentioning hot topic of ministers pay recently!!

This borrowed post is just a prelude.

He alreday fired at ministers pay  in Oct:

http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2008/10/lost-sense-of-bonding-and-togetherness.html

now he posted again--

Lost the sense of bonding and togetherness

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Mr Tan,$8000 pm was not a peanut in mid 1950's!!Do u think so?

vvvvv

 

Originally posted by Chin Eng:

.... just one question....

how much is lionnoisy paid for all his efforts???

your kind attention is my greatest reward.

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1.USA dared not take the challenge from LKY to let

internationl committee investigate the case.What a coward!

Moving to quiet the dispute that followed the American diplomat's expulsion last month, Mr. Lee proposed to Parliament that an international committee investigate the case.

Mr. Lee emphasized that he considered the United States an important friend, but also said that American officials needed to understand Singapore's political realities.

The Prime Minister said the American diplomat's meetings with the opposition had been taken as an affront by the younger leaders of his ruling People's Action Party.

This headline shall be changed to

Singapore Seeks to End Strain With U.S.

USA dared not take the challenge from Singapore

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u can read how NYT reported LKY in the past few decades.

Lee Kuan Yew News - The New York Times

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nnn

send him RMB one dollar.or send him some curry powder.

u get his address?

i also need $$ badly .pl donate Euro or pound sterling or yens!!

alert alert hacker kacker

these are their links

http://sp1.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/f10/415417307

http://sp1.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/f11/210539459

They have changed my images.

Have any MOD edited my postings.

pl drop me a line if u have edited or deleted or altered.Tx

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/325946

 

 

Sunday, November 30, 2008

Justice Judith Prakash. Another Kangaroo Judge.

wow.Does He want to eat curry at QRP again?

Nair begs for money from Calif,a soon to bankcrupt state.

Read how he was very happy to waste 18 days of SG court

but court fine him only S$3,000!!

How much the salary of Judge,DPP's,police,laws clerk,

air cond fee and delaying  other cases!

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AGC shall add a laws to forbide SG citizens to donate money to foreigners

for SG domestic affairs and foreign affairs!!

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Monday, December 1, 2008

An appeal for donations

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http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/330163

Convicted: Gopalan Nair Speaker's Corner

This case, which I shall call the disorderly case, took 18 days of trial in court. I defended myself. After all I am a lawyer. So if I have been fined $3,000.00, you may say that I got my money's worth. I have made the court and the Singapore Attorney General to work very hard for 18 days of court time. In return the fine I have to pay them is only $3,000.00. If you look at from a financial standpoint, you could say that I have ripped them off. What, for 18 days of court time, they get only $3,000.00!

Saturday, September 6, 2008

Convicted

Posted by Gopalan Nair at 3:23 AM 63 comments

nbbb

 

SR Nathan puts his head in the chopping board by telling the facts.

Where are your facts,bro?Have Seow get any papers or articles or any output

published in professional or academic journals etc.

pl share here.i need to copy!!

free promotions from lion.

To Catch a Tartar: A Dissident in Lee Kuan Yew's Prison. - Free ...

 

The book is Seow's story and some of the "facts" have been disputed by the Singapore government (e.g., in a letter from the Singapore ambassador, S. R. Nathan, in the Wall Street Journal, February 8, 1995). Even if it leaves a number of unanswered questions, the book offers rare insight into political life on a small island where the political leadership apparently find time to concern themselves with the private lives of the citizenry.

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Sequence 5152 (Page 15): Harvard Law School. Harvard Law School ...

Harvard Law School. Harvard Law School catalog. [Cambridge, Mass. : Published by the University, 1970-.

Francis Seow, Research Fellow.

under publication.not teaching or research staff.

 

bbbb

Read S.R Nathan,then Ambassador at large, challenged the status of Seow

in Visiting Fellow at the Harvard Law School in the United States.

This is a letter to Forum of Strait Times.

eee

                        Pub Date: 10/06/1997   Pub: ST              Page: 31
                        

                        Headline: Is Francis Seow a Harvard Visiting Fellow?
                        

                        Page Heading: Forum
                        

                        Type:    Letter
                        

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                        YOUR article "Malaysia's crime rate higher than Singapore's" (ST, June 2)
                        

                        described Mr Francis Seow as "a Visiting Fellow at the Harvard Law School in
                        

                        the United States".
                        

                           In 1994, as Ambassador to Washington DC, I noted in a letter to The Asian
                        

                        Wall Street Journal that Asia Watch had helped arrange a postal address for Mr
                        

                        Seow at the Harvard Law School, and described him as a "perennial
                        

                        non-resident, non-graduating student, now in his sixth year".
                        

                           Professor William Alford of the Harvard Law School replied, claiming that Mr
                        

                        Seow's appointment was based strictly upon academic considerations, and that
                        

                        he had been "an active and productive member of this intellectual community".
                        

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                        I then asked Prof Alford to list the scholastic output of his visiting
                        

                        scholar in legal journals like the Harvard Law Review. Neither Prof Alford nor
                        

                        Mr Seow ever replied.
                        

   S. R. NATHAN Ambassador-at-Large Ministry of Foreign Affairs

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                         the scholastic output --lion note ,few of coffee table books.

                        This is anothe Reader v Professor case.Ha ha.

                        

                        

                        Ladies and gentlemen,bro and sis,

                        pl share here what are Francis Seow scholastic output.

                        Full details pl.So i can quote his great jobs when i study my

                        Ph.D,in Chinese!!

                        

                        

                        

mmmm

rrrr

Subhas Anandan thought Seow may just fined on income tax charge.

Seow" was not prepared to go through the test of fire which all politicans

must face."

Pl note Subhas Anandan wrote about Seow:

" was not prepared to go through the test of fire which all politicans

must face." This is not written by STimes.

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What commission did Seow receive?House transaction?Other trading?

Pl read STimes story:

                        A warrant of arrest was issued against him last May and the trial for the
                        

                        alleged tax evasion on $60,000 commission has been adjourned pending his
                        

                        arrest. 
                        

 

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                        Pub Date: 15/10/1989   Pub: ST              Page: 3
                        

                        Day: Sunday
                        

                        Headline: I'll return to face charges, says Francis Seow
                        

                        By: Alan Hubbard, Europe Editor
                        

                        Page Heading: News Focus
                        

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                        LONDON - Lawyer Francis Seow flew into London from New York on Friday and said
                        

                        he would be returning to Singapore to face tax evasion charges "in due
                        

                        course".
                        

                           "I'll be going back to Singapore soon enough," he told The Sunday Times from
                        

                        his hotel in west London's Earls Court.
                        

                           But he declined to be more specific. "At the moment I don't even know my own
                        

                        plans."
                        

                           Asked whether these depend on his state of health - he had been reported to
                        

                        have claimed that he was medically advised not to make long plane journeys
                        

                        because of a heart condition - he said:
                        

                           "No. The heart condition is still there and under control. The medical advice
                        

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                        I was given about travelling was way back in December," said Mr Seow.
                        

                           Mr Seow's lawyer submitted to the Singapore court last December a medical
                        

                        report by a New York cardiologist saying that Mr Seow was medically unfit to
                        

                        travel back to Singapore to attend his trial on the tax evasion charges. Mr
                        

                        Seow was then in New York seeking attention for a heart condition.
                        

                           However, in a Singapore District Court hearing in February where Mr Seow was
                        

                        being charged with allegedly evading tax on a commission of $60,000, the
                        

                        prosecution produced evidence that he made seven air trips in the US in
                        

                        January and December.
                        

                           These trips made in December and January totalled 21 hours of flying time
                        

                        which was longer than a flight from New York to Singapore.
                        

                           When the case was heard again in March, Mr Seow's New York cardiologist said
                        

                        he was now fit to fly home.
                        

                           Mr Seow is in London at the invitation of the Singaporean and Malaysian
                        

                        British Association to take part in a public forum on Singapore's political
                        

                        situation at the London School of Economics yesterday. The subject of his talk
                        

                        was given as "The Tyrannny of the Majority", which he said, took as its theme
                        

                        "The erosion of human rights in Singapore".
                        

                           Among other listed speakers were Tan Wah Piow, named in May 1987 by the
                        

                        Singapore government as the ringleader in a Marxist plot, and former detainee
                        

                        Tang Fong Har, who now lives in Bedford.
                        

                           He was convicted in his absence last December on five tax evasion charges and
                        

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                        fined $19,000. He is facing another charge on tax evasion involving a $60,000
                        

                        commission. He also faces trial on 60 tax summonses.
                        

                           A warrant of arrest was issued against him last May and the trial for the
                        

                        alleged tax evasion on $60,000 commission has been adjourned pending his
                        

                        arrest.
                        

                           Meanwhile the trial on the 60 tax summonses was to have started on Sept 25
                        

                        but District Judge Chiam Boon Keng refused to proceed on the grounds that
                        

                        there was no evidence that Mr Seow knew of the proceedings against him.
                        

                           The court will decide on Wednesday whether or not to try Mr Seow in his
                        

                        absence.
                        

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mmmm

Originally posted by Man!x:

Blah Blah x10000

Lionnoisy, pls refrain from posting your copy & paste rubbish, i doubt you even understand what the hell you posting about. And you type like a bloody chinaman... no wonder our country is in the shit right now, its being led by dumbshits like you!

do u mean i lead any one?

no lah.Thanks.

 

many are interested in oz prices and properties'

If the cuts passed through to mortgages, standard variable rates would hit 5 per cent, a level not seen since 1964, when they were fixed at that level under the Coalition government of Robert Menzies.

The Melbourne Institute-TD Securities inflation gauge is negative for a second successive month, suggesting prices will fall in the December quarter, paving the way for Australia’s first sustained run of deflation in more than half a century.

Rates on track for 44-year low

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one of major national banks will cut 10% staff:

ANZ tipped to make heavy job cuts

HUNDREDS, and possibly thousands, of jobs will go from the ANZ within weeks as the bank aggressively reduces costs in the face of the economic slowdown and credit crisis.

A well-placed source who is aware of ANZ's plans said it would axe 3000-3500 staff and contractors — 10% of its workforce.

The redundancies will occur at least two weeks before Christmas to avoid more bad publicity. "They are moving through the entire organisation," the source said. "They are trying to take as much cost pressure out as they can."

 For comparsion ,DBS cut 6 %.

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nnnn

Originally posted by skythewood:

He was confined to sentosa. That is not very much of going around, is it? curfew means you can go to maybe orchard and shop, this guy can't leave the island.

 

The Government has always adopted a measured and cautious approach to Chia Thye Poh's case. Chia was moved from a prison to a home environment of government half-way houses in 1982, when he was still under detention.

In 1989 Chia was released from detention and placed in Restriction Orders (RO) to reside in Sentosa Island, where he was allowed to move freely and receive visitors.

In 1990 and 1992 this was further relaxed to allow Chia to visit Singapore mainland daily, and subsequently to reside on Singapore mainland.

Since 1992, Chia's RO has been renewed with progressively fewer restrictive conditions.

This allowed Chia in Aug 97 to go to Hamburg on a 1-year Hamburg Foundation Scholarship.

For the half--way house,i dunt have the details.Do u have any?

i assume it was Day out,Night in institution.

2.For sentosa,can i call Island Arrest?

It was much better than prison cell and half--way house.

In Sentosa,he worked as Assiatant Curator

for Sentosa Development Corp,getting a starting salary of $900.

http://stars.nhb.gov.sg/stars/tmp/839-1989-02-17.pdf

 

have u seen any Central Bank cutting interest rate like buggy jump?

 

good or bad news?one % cut more today!

"THE Reserve Bank cut rates by a full percentage point today, extending the biggest round of reductions since the early 1990s. RBA cuts rates to 4.25pc

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Originally posted by skythewood:

so... the 9 years is not house arrest? some guy in wiki think it is,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_arrest#Singapore

if it is not house arrest, how would you define the 9 years?

I assume during the 9 years period,

Chia could move around during day time.

I think he needed to go back to designated residence at designated time.

i call it curfew,rather than house arrest.

Under house arrest,u cant go out.Dunt u?